in light of the new understanding of the faithful and discreet slave, is it appropriate to refer to c.t.
russell as brother russell?.
in the past, some well meaning ones took it upon themselves to refer to c.t.
Yep, they can't claim that guy as their founder anymore because people can do a quick Google search to find out he had some nutty ideas and dubious obsessions with the occult.
Eventually they'll probably drop Rutherford too, just as Krushchev dropped Stalin.
when i served in bethel during the late 90's i was told by several bethel elders that since the city did not approve the 30 story residential building (now 90 sands) to be built in columbia heights, bethelites were sent to stand in front of city hall as a protest.
this was approved by the gb.. i wasn't there at that time but my question is.... is there anybody here that may have been at bethel or nyc at that time that can shed more light on this?
the wt criticizes organizations and individuals that protest to protect their rights.
They'll fight tooth an nail when it's in their interests to, but no other reason, nor will they allow JWs to do so either.
when i was a kid,kingdom halls still had windows.thats a while ago..as a kid i was told in the last days,jehovah`s witness`s would be rounded up and be put into concentration camps..i was told,when the government came to take me away and seperate me from my parents,i should wear my warmest coat and boots.as i would have to fend for myself in the concentration camp..i was told never to give up my faith.even if they tied my parents to a stake and was foced to light the fire that would burn them alive.....jehovah`s witness`s are the "happiest people on earth!
".....do you have any happy memorys like mine?...outlaw
When I read 1984 and gulag books where all the people were tortured into confessing or submitting to the regime I would wonder how I would cope when it happened to me. I was told by a sister never to talk about what I'm afraid of because Satan will hear and it can be used to torture me.
I used to worry about what i'd tell my non-JW parents when we got the 'call' to 'flee to the mountains' when Armageddon was coming, and also that my brother who was in the army for a few years would be ordered to shoot me...and actually do it. Being shot didn't frighten me as much as being betrayed by my beloved brother.
What messed up crap.
when i was a kid,kingdom halls still had windows.thats a while ago..as a kid i was told in the last days,jehovah`s witness`s would be rounded up and be put into concentration camps..i was told,when the government came to take me away and seperate me from my parents,i should wear my warmest coat and boots.as i would have to fend for myself in the concentration camp..i was told never to give up my faith.even if they tied my parents to a stake and was foced to light the fire that would burn them alive.....jehovah`s witness`s are the "happiest people on earth!
".....do you have any happy memorys like mine?...outlaw
I've never been in a Kingdom hall that hasn't had windows. That's the way they build them here.
a bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.
she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.
far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.
*Sigh* it's so good to have people who understand! It really helps the healing process. My father's been telling me ever since I became a JW I was too good for 'that mob' as he used to call them.
One of my old friends learned TTATT years ago and we just reconnected after she learned I'd woken up too. I never knew she'd turned because her fade has been watertight, but I'm just thrilled to have a friend spanning both pre-ttatt and post-ttatt days.
i'm absolutely furious about it!
no message, just deletes me from his friends list-- which is fine.... but i can't even *message* him.
funny, the bum of a bil just had his district convention in his home country, which he attended with his mother and father.
I'm sad for you mate. You deserved an explanation after such a close bond.
i had such an embarassing encounter with a memeber of the local kingdom hall once.
mind you have i have been fading for over 6 months, and i've had no contact with anyone at the hall.
i was walking up the stairs to my psychiatrist office when i heard other people behind me.
I second above.
Bump.
i had such an embarassing encounter with a memeber of the local kingdom hall once.
mind you have i have been fading for over 6 months, and i've had no contact with anyone at the hall.
i was walking up the stairs to my psychiatrist office when i heard other people behind me.
I usually acknowledge them and say hi and if they want to talk I talk to them like there's no issue, usually about work or something and ask about their health. I pretend there's no problem. For me there isn't. They're the ones with the problem. I have had the odd one ignore me or put her head down and continue on her way, so no loss there.
a bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.
she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.
far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.
Amen. I got my own groove now and plenty of new people to talk to, plus my non Jw friends from years ago are so supportive of this process.
